microSD problems

by Daniel » Sat, 07 Mar 2009 03:22:00 GMT


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 A quick Google search reveals a lot of microSD problems.

I just got the T-Mobile UK G1 today and haven't been able to get the
microSD working, either through the phone settings or mounting the
phone from the PC.

Is anyone here able to provide a straight answer?  Searching Google
just returns hundreds of user complaints with no definite solutions,
and T-Mobile just keep me on hold.


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microSD problems

by Justin Allen Jaynes » Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:30:16 GMT


 While any interest in Android is good, this is a developer forum only.

Use this forum if:

"You're now an experienced Android application developer. You've grasped 
the basics of Android app development, you're comfortable using the SDK, 
now you want to move to advanced topics. Get help here with 
troubleshooting applications, advice on implementation, and strategies 
for improving your application's performance and user experience.
--Google Groups Description

his is the not the right place to discuss user issues (use 
android-discuss for that) or beginner questions with the Android SDK 
(use android-beginners for that)." --Google Groups Description

For complete information see:
 http://developer.android.com/community 





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microSD problems

by Daniel » Sat, 07 Mar 2009 15:46:59 GMT


 > now you want to move to advanced topics. Get help here with

I do want to move to advanced topics, but there's not much I can do
when the phone is crippled by bugs when mounting the memory card.

I do see myself as an advanced user of technology with many years of
development experience - hence I have posted on this forum, hoping to
find out if like-minded people are having the same difficulty as
myself getting this phone to move off the starting line.

Some forum posts have reported that people have to pop out their
memory card and re-insert it periodically, and various other work-
arounds.  It brings me to the question: is the phone really stable
enough for any advanced development work, or should I put my interest
in Android on hold for another 6 months rather than getting bogged
down in issues like this?


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microSD problems

by Al Sutton » Sat, 07 Mar 2009 15:53:01 GMT


 A pop and re-insert fixed the problem for me when my microSD "dissapeared" .

The 'phone is generally stable, and the microSD problem seems to be like 
the Xbox 360 red ring of death, if you search for it you'll see lots of 
complaints, but most users don't experience the problem.

In terms of holding off your interest, that's got to be a personal (or 
business) choice, but I wouldn't make it based on the hardware because 
other devices are coming out (The HTC-Magic on Vodafone is due out in a 
few weeks), so I'd suggest you focus more on your business model and how 
Android can support it than whether or not the first consumer device can 
hold up to the work.

Al.





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by Justin Allen Jaynes » Sat, 07 Mar 2009 16:34:58 GMT


 I apologize to the group for being so repetitive.  Al is right.  I 
should just hit the delete key.  (Although, Al, you suggest I think this 
group is all about me and that I'm trying to set a standard discussion 
topic--not so.  Google set the topic when they wrote those words which I 
have too frequently quoted.  Again, sorry for it, everyone.)

Nevertheless, it will continue to drive me crazy that even knowing the 
rules, and that there is a forum for other topics, you choose to ignore 
them and assume that since the Google Engineers don't demand 
conformance, it's okay by the rest of us.  Do you think nobody will 
listen to you in the other forum?  That's actually probably true.  That 
forum seems somewhat useless, but that's how I feel about comments 
concerning the unfairness of the android market and the shortcomings of 
Google and T-Mobile.  I suspect that is why they made the other 
forum--to fill with useless chit-chat (yes--like the very chit-chat I am 
making) and keep it far from here.

No more from me on the subject.  I had no idea the rules were so 
unpopular--I thought they were just unread.

Justin





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by Al Sutton » Sat, 07 Mar 2009 16:39:25 GMT


 Many thanks for changing your approach to the list. I hope you find the 
list as useful as many of us do and look forward to your added input to 
the discussions.

Al.






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by Daniel » Sat, 07 Mar 2009 22:35:13 GMT


 The microSD problem was one of many problems I have actually had on
this phone.  However, it is the only problem that I chose to write
about on this list, because it is this kind of really basic stuff that
can impact on the productivity of a developer.

To put it in context, after I got around the problem (workaround
below), the time it took to enable root on the phone, unlock it from T-
Mobile, and get it fully working with my IMAP and a test with a
Funambol server was less than the time I wasted on the microSD
issue.

As for the microSD problem itself:
- The phone had no way of doing anything with the 2GB microSD from T-
Mobile.  It either showed up as unavailable or size = 0.  No option to
format it.
- When trying to access it from a PC with the supplied USB cable (even
just reading the partition table), Linux reports all kind of
unrecoverable read errors.

Workaround - I finally gave up trying to make it work as described in
other forums, and I went to a local store and bought a microSD reader
that fits directly in my PC's USB slot.  Using this reader, I could
format the card with mkfs.vfat, and then it was usable on the phone.
When I finally got through to T-Mobile, they could only suggest
swapping the phone, but I can't see how swapping the phone would
change the fact that no microSD reader was in the box in the first
place.  If I had followed T-Mobile's advice, I probably would have
ended up cancelling my order and returning the phone (the T-Mobile
girl even suggested this option).

For those who are hoping to make a living on Android development, I
would hate to think your potential customers are not even going to get
as far as the Market apps before they give up, but hopefully the lack
of Android phones released so far is a sign that they are being held
back until quality issues are under control.




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