about the market 15 minutes refund window

by nick » Mon, 20 Dec 2010 15:57:03 GMT


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 It seems that the new 15 minute refund windows is live, but is it so
in every country with paid apps? And if so, how does it look from
Google Checkout? I would expect that order state will change to
Charged/Shipped within more or less 15 minutes. This is not the case
in Japan though. It still takes about 24 hours for the order state to
change to Charged/Shipped. So the question is: is the new refund
window not active everywhere or is it just orders update only once a
day?

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Re: about the market 15 minutes refund window

by TreKing » Mon, 20 Dec 2010 23:23:24 GMT


 



I believe it's the latter. Awesome, ain't it?

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Re: about the market 15 minutes refund window

by Zsolt Vasvari » Tue, 21 Dec 2010 07:26:54 GMT


 It's still exactly like before.  The orders get updated with the 24hr+
rolling schedule.






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Re: about the market 15 minutes refund window

by nick » Tue, 21 Dec 2010 09:51:35 GMT


 


Thanks for the confirmation. I have some orders that updated in less
than 24 hours,
but most are updated in about 27 hours. As usual, the ways of the
Market are mysterious.





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Re: about the market 15 minutes refund window

by nick » Tue, 21 Dec 2010 10:14:01 GMT


 


Please don't hijack threads. Start a new topic with your question,
don't just reply to any random message that happens to be on top.

Thank you.

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Re: Re: about the market 15 minutes refund window

by TreKing » Tue, 21 Dec 2010 12:02:27 GMT


 





He didn't - it's a separate GMail message. If you're viewing through Google
Groups online, well, that interface sucks and sometimes crosses posts.

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about the market 15 minutes refund window

by metal mikey » Tue, 21 Dec 2010 12:35:58 GMT


 @Jiang: To solve your problem, first you need to make your own thread
and stop being so rude as to hijack pre-existing threads.
...2nd warning, <facepalm>



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Re: about the market 15 minutes refund window

by metal mikey » Tue, 21 Dec 2010 13:05:46 GMT


 @TreKing: because the subject was changed, gmail lists it as a 2nd
conversation, however it remains bound to the same thread in Google
Groups because it continues to use the docid from the original thread
(that had its subject changed). Try emailing yourself an email with a
certain subject, then in gmail reply to that email but 'Edit Subject'
to something different...you'll see you'll get a seperate thread in
gmail.

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Re: about the market 15 minutes refund window

by Zsolt Vasvari » Tue, 21 Dec 2010 14:38:41 GMT


 Changing subject back.




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Re: about the market 15 minutes refund window

by Brill Pappin » Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:32:18 GMT


 Actually that kind of fits with the processor industry and banking in 
general.

Typically transactions are batch processed daily. This is similar to a 
retail setting were the registers are closed out daily.
It's a legacy of when we used paper for all this stuff, but the banks still 
run the same way, so everyone else has to as well.

What I'm saying, is that its makes complete sense to me, having worked with 
this stuff before, that it doesn't look like anything is different... it's 
because its actually not different on the Checkout side and it's on purpose.

Any agreement to automatically refund the user is a Market thing, not a 
Checkout thing but your viewing your transactions in Checkout.

I hope that reduces the confusion :)
- Brill Pappin

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Re: Re: about the market 15 minutes refund window

by TreKing » Tue, 21 Dec 2010 23:06:37 GMT


 



Oh, gotcha, that makes sense. I always assume it's Google Groups being it's
crappy self. I take back my defense of the hijacker =P

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Re: Re: about the market 15 minutes refund window

by Nikolay Elenkov » Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:46:46 GMT


 Hi,




Sorry I missed your reply.

It does make sense when you think of it in the context of batch processing.
It's just hard to imagine that Google uses a cronjob that fires every
morning at 2 am
and goes through a bunch of CSV files downloaded over FTP :)

Anyway, they must have changed something, because orders are
now processed after about 4 hours. Someone has been playing with cron :)
It is better this way, just wish I could figure out the new payment schedule...

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