Email makes it a bigger issue

by shap » Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:54:30 GMT


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 One poster above argues for standard UIs. That is missing the point a
bit, because email is an unusual case.

Those of us who suffer under a lot of spam read our email in two
phases. The first is simply killing off subject lines that are obvious
spam. For those, we desperately DO NOT want to open those messages,
because many of them contain viruses. On the other hand, the "click
and hold" on the trackball becomes really tedious somewhere around
your 50th spam in the latest download. On the Dash, there actually
*is* a soft button (well, a label for the left button) to do just
this, and it is a GODSEND for those of us who get lots of mail.

But the big killer I am seeing with the current email app is that
deletes on the handset do not propagate back to the imap server on the
next synchronization. This makes the current imap client completely
unusable for me.

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Email makes it a bigger issue

by sbeam » Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:08:58 GMT


 > On the Dash, there actually

what is "the Dash"?? I _need_ this.


yeah. And there is no way to put a message in a folder?? I categorize
all my work email by project and I can't handle it if everything is
jumbled together, it's an OCDers nightmare. I am not impressed with
the email client, I guess they want you to use gmail?

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Email makes it a bigger issue

by Albatross » Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:36:44 GMT


 


I have to second this. I am VERY disappointed in the e-mail
application.  Is there some OTHER e-mail application that can be
downloaded and installed?  This one is completely useless.

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Email makes it a bigger issue

by Disconnect » Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:43:04 GMT


 K-9 is a patched version of the stock email app that has a lot of the bugs
fixed. (No, its not mine.)

Available in the appstore, and at least until google patches email and tmob
provides an update (i'm not holding my breath) its the only real email
option.








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Email makes it a bigger issue

by Jesse Vincent » Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:44:47 GMT


 



Hi.  I'm responsible for K-9 (though we seem to be collecting new
contributors at a reasonably brisk pace).  I implemented delete-on-server as
one of the first things I did.  I'm not sure I'd say that we've fixed a
_lot_ of the bugs in the core Email application. Many improvements come from
the fact that we started with the opensourced version of Email, which
appears to be a newer build than the one shipped with the G1.

You can find out a bit more about what K-9 ships with at
 http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/wiki/ReleaseNotes 

It's my intent to feed back improvements to the core Email application,
though I'm not 100% sure everything we do will be deemed 'right' for a core
application. I've signed a CLA and will encourage all other contributors to
do so.  As far as I've been able to determine, it's not possible to install
local builds of a core application or distribute an improved version of a
core application to the Marketplace without doing a fair amount of
name-changing. This makes contributions a little more painful, but I'm
confident we can make it go if the Android team think any of what we're
doing is up to snuff.

If you feel like helping to improve the state of email on Android, join us
at  http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/ 


-jesse

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Email makes it a bigger issue

by Al Sutton » Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:54:18 GMT


 Jesse,

Any chance you can add in a tree view for IMAP hierarchies?

I have a 350MB IMAP mailbox with 200+ folders some nested 4 deep and the 
G1 makes it a loooooong list to scroll through.

Al.







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Email makes it a bigger issue

by Joe Onorato » Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:54:29 GMT


 



I think it's worth giving it a shot.  This is why we open sourced android
after all.  I'm sure we can come up with some way of building both versions
out of the same source code.  It's already possible to specify which
AndroidManifest.xml to use in the build system.  Maybe we can separate some
of the other constants into another class that we have two versions of.

-joe

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Email makes it a bigger issue

by Jesse Vincent » Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:31:25 GMT


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Joe,

That would be excellent. It'd be useful to end up with a documented pattern
for such things so that we can end up with a truer 'branching' model than a
'fork and go off on your own' model. (I know someone who's been talking
about forking and publishing the address book to get some bugfixes published
to the market.)

Would you be up for joining us at



Email makes it a bigger issue

by Jesse Vincent » Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:33:26 GMT


 



I have the same problem, though I have things higher on my personal todo
list. I'd encourage you to open a bug or star an existing bug at
 http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/issues/list 

If you're handy with Java or want to become handy with Java, start working
on a patch. Android is lots of fun to work with.

-jesse

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Email makes it a bigger issue

by Alex Feldman » Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:22:04 GMT


 I have the $25/month data plan with t-mobile for my G1.  I talked to T-
mobile representatives (more like confronting them about it since they
didn't even know this to begin with), and they told me that IMAP
emails use SMS for data transfer, which eats away at my 400 SMS/month
messaging limit (non-Google Talk instant messages use SMS as well).
Would it be possible for you to add an option to K9 Mail client to use
Internet access for IMAP communication instead of SMS as the built in
email client?

Thank you!

Alex

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Email makes it a bigger issue

by Michael Stella » Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:26:21 GMT


 Haha.. go T-mobile!  Idiots.

Email using the default client or K9 uses your DATA connection, not SMS.





I have the $25/month data plan with t-mobile for my G1.  I talked to T-
mobile representatives (more like confronting them about it since they
didn't even know this to begin with), and they told me that IMAP
emails use SMS for data transfer, which eats away at my 400 SMS/month
messaging limit (non-Google Talk instant messages use SMS as well).
Would it be possible for you to add an option to K9 Mail client to use
Internet access for IMAP communication instead of SMS as the built in
email client?

Thank you!

Alex



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Email makes it a bigger issue

by Brian Beattie » Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:35:28 GMT


 


Ummmmm, the data connection is TCP/IP over G3, not SMS.  Email and Gtalk
do not eat awat at your 400 SMS/month.  Your clue here is that the
people you spoke to "didn't even know this to begin with".

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