Vote: a device G1 for each ADC entrance

by arnouf » Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:05:26 GMT

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 Hello Android Developers,

Apparently the recent announcements about Android and HTC Dream G1has
increased the number of developers on this group. It's really cool!

It should be cooler if each developer could have a real device to test
their applications, everywhere around the world.
So, it's not possible. Only American developers could test their apps

I'm doing a survey to know if as Google, HTC, T-mobile and Deutsch
Telekom, you think that it's normal. Please vote on this link: 

Why can American developers test correctly their app and not all
All developers made Google Android and HTC success!

PS: I have nothing against american developers :)

Vote: a device G1 for each ADC entrance

by Timbobsteve » Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:21:19 GMT

 I am all for Devs getting access to the hardware and I don't think
that it should be selected regions either, but I also don't think
Google, HTC and T-Mobile "owe" us free devices. I think if Devs could
buy subsidized developer hardware before it is released publicly, it
would greatly increase the quality of software.

Having said that, a lot of software will be OSS and OSS Developers
have battled without such courtesies for many years.... so hardware is
a bonus. I know many devs that building software for iPhone, GP2X and
Xbox without even having access to the device. All testing had to be
done through a select group of testers before being released.

My 2p

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Vote: a device G1 for each ADC entrance

by arnouf » Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:14:23 GMT

 We could pay something to have a hardware device...not particularly
Just have a device for each developer, even if developer have to pay
(it should be a little bit normal).



Vote: a device G1 for each ADC entrance

by Tauno T » Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:31:14 GMT

 Did Apple give every app developer a free or otherwise special device?
Is Symbian giving free (or selling) new devices to developers who
can't buy them officially? No.
Is Sun giving free (or selling) J2ME enabled devices to developers who
can't buy them officialy? No.
The same goes for Windows/Brew/BlackBerry etc etc devices.

Sorry but you can't expect that an OS developer (like Google) is
selling (or giving away for free) devices (that a completely unrelated
company produces(HTC) and a third unrelated company sells (T-Mobile))
to the developers who want to develop on these platforms.


Vote: a device G1 for each ADC entrance

by arnouf » Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:48:06 GMT

 Why do you talk "free device"? I didn't say that...not exactly.

1. I think that all developers could ORDER (so not free!) an Android
Phone to test, in US, in same time. The phone should not
be locked to one operator.
2. I think that it is cool if ADC participant (not all developers, but
one device by app) could receive on device - so, there it's free...

I hope that my feelings is understood now without ambiguity.



Vote: a device G1 for each ADC entrance

by leo.nomdedeu » Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:41:59 GMT

 hat's a matter of economy and market. Google is a USA based company,
although they make business all over the world. We, the other part of
the world, will have to wait the release of some Android based mobile
phone in our countries. Hopefully some day market will be at our side
and as you said, all "developers" will have the same opportunities to
get the hardware we are working for so hard. Nowadays the distribution
chain is not fair for outside USA, but we have to live with this.

Developing with the emulator is the only solution, and yes, a lot of
applications have been developed this way without having any kind of
access to the real hardware, but it's still not the same. You know,
having the device in your hand, in your pocket, ..., it much more

So, I highly endorse your complain. We don't want Google to give us a
free phone (well, we want, as everybody but it's not the point of this
discussion), we just want to be able to buy it easily as we where
"anywhere" in the world. That's the point of this kind of devices,
isn't it? Anywhere, anything in your hand ... but not the device you
work for ... It sound a little crazy ...

And, as "arnouf", I have nothing against USA developers or even
companies, but against the chain of distribution and the privileges
some pieces of land has. That apply not only to USA, but also to
Finland and the release of special, early devices from Nokia...

How knows, may be I simply don't understand market complexity ... ;)

On Sep 26, 2:47 pm, arnouf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Vote: a device G1 for each ADC entrance

by A Casa do Java » Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:55:14 GMT

 You said: "Why can American developers test correctly their app and
not all

I say: why can only non-latin american developers vote on your survey
and not all developers?


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