Does one really need to have a data plan with G1 if you use Wifi + voice?

by Anil » Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:16:00 GMT


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 I just spoke with a T-mobile rep and she says that "in order for the
phone to work, you have to have the data plan because without internet
access, you will not even be able to make phone calls because you have
to sign on to your google account to sign into the phone".
So one cannot make voice calls without internet access to first sign
in? that seems really ridiculous to me. Is that accurate? Can anyone
with a G1 and without a data plan verify?

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Does one really need to have a data plan with G1 if you use Wifi + voice?

by Mark Murphy » Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:17:49 GMT


 


For the first time you use the phone, yes.

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Does one really need to have a data plan with G1 if you use Wifi + voice?

by Anil » Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:33:56 GMT


 thanks for replying. if you power up the phone after shutting it off,
do you need to sign in again?





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Does one really need to have a data plan with G1 if you use Wifi + voice?

by Mark Murphy » Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:34:32 GMT


 


No.

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Does one really need to have a data plan with G1 if you use Wifi + voice?

by Anil » Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:42:01 GMT


 so if I buy the G1, and I have Wifi at home (or a public hotspot),
then when I take it out of the box, will I be able to sign on?





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Does one really need to have a data plan with G1 if you use Wifi + voice?

by Anil » Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:22:53 GMT


 In other words, if one can do the initial sign-on using Wifi access
then one does not even need to order the data plan to cancel
afterward...
(of course, one needs to activate the phone for voice calls).





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Does one really need to have a data plan with G1 if you use Wifi + voice?

by Mark Murphy » Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:36:01 GMT


 


It is possible there are ADP1-related instructions that would explain
how to do the initial sign-on with WiFi. Odds are, though, that it is
impossible, because you can't get to a place to specify an access point
to use (let alone any encryption credentials) without going through the
sign-on process.

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Does one really need to have a data plan with G1 if you use Wifi + voice?

by Anil » Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:04:20 GMT


 Anyway, either there is something we do not know about or the T-mobile
reps
are lying through their teeth (or are told such) - at least two of
them told me
that "without a data plan on the G1 and also for the Sidekick, you
wont be able to make outgoing voice calls but you will be able to
receive them". Their customer care / enquiry line is (800) 937 8997.





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Does one really need to have a data plan with G1 if you use Wifi + voice?

by Tote » Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:01:36 GMT


 I think a new world opens up for you if you can rely on that Internet
is always available. A flat rate data plan provides that assurance.
It's another question if you're willing to pay the price of this
feature. Yet another question that Google most probably insists on
that operators sell Android devices with data plan if possible.

Gabor







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Does one really need to have a data plan with G1 if you use Wifi + voice?

by whitemice » Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:03:32 GMT


 Based on tests with my ADP 1.0:
To get past the sign in screen you need to enter a Google account, and
have a T-Mobile SIM card in the phone (it did not work with another
operator SIM with data plan).  The device will then sign you into the
Google account and configure all the associated applications
(Calendar, Contacts and Gmail).

Once you are past the sign-in screen you can access the connectivity
settings and enable Wi-Fi.

The phone still requires a SIM card to switch on again, but from this
point on you can get by without a data plan.

However the only way to stop the device sending and receiving using
your current data plan is by manually breaking the APN settings:
Menu > Settings > Mobile network settings > Access point names

I don know if this has been improved in later firmware.


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