Apps labeled as Tetris Clones removed from Android Market

by Ralf » Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:38:08 GMT


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 You forget that Google is a US entity and as such is bound to US laws,
such as, for example, complying to US export limitations. If you don't
like it, you can always create your own app store that is not bound to
US laws and encourage developers to use it :-p

R/





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Apps labeled as Tetris Clones removed from Android Market

by Al Sutton » Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:35:17 GMT


 That why I set up the company behind AndAppStore. DMCA notices are
irrelevant to apps on AndAppStore because the company and it's assets are
solely located outside the USA to ensure the USAs ridiculous rules in
relation to Intellectual Property do not interfere with the companies global
operations. The company respects copyrights, but does not take down apps
just because someone paid a lawyer a few hundred dollars to write a letter.

You also forget Google is not just a US entity. It has registered companies
around the world which are not bound by US laws (such as Google UK Ltd.)
which could run and operate Market thus giving them the same freedoms as the
rest of us outside the jurisdiction of US law.

Al.

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The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not 
necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's 
subsidiaries. 


-----Original Message-----
From: android-developers@googlegroups.com
[mailto:android-develop...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ralf
Sent: 13 April 2009 06:38
To: android-developers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [android-developers] Re: Apps labeled as Tetris Clones removed from
Android Market


You forget that Google is a US entity and as such is bound to US laws, such
as, for example, complying to US export limitations. If you don't like it,
you can always create your own app store that is not bound to US laws and
encourage developers to use it :-p

R/



juristiction.





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Apps labeled as Tetris Clones removed from Android Market

by Mariano Kamp » Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:58:19 GMT


 gt;> You also forget Google is not just a US entity. It has registered
companies
around the world which are not bound by US laws (such as Google UK Ltd.)
which could run and operate Market thus giving them the same freedoms as the
rest of us outside the jurisdiction of US law. <<
I am not sure that this true for all practical matters. I work for an
American company and certify once a year that I will adhere to US export
restrictions.

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:


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Apps labeled as Tetris Clones removed from Android Market

by Al Sutton » Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:23:30 GMT


 've worked for UK operations of some large US companies and for UK
companies delivering to UK operations of US companies and US legal
restrictions didn't enter into the equation at any point. As a specific
example I have *never* worked at a company that took US patents into
consideration when developing software and in some cases I think other
developers may got some "inspiration" when hearing about patents involved in
US lawsuits.

The key point seems to be whether or not the UK operation is a truely
separate company, or if the UK operation relies on the use of assets either
located in the US or owned by a US organisation.

Al.

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* Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ *

======
Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK.

The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
subsidiaries.





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From: android-developers@googlegroups.com
[mailto:android-develop...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mariano Kamp
Sent: 13 April 2009 11:58
To: android-developers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [android-developers] Re: Apps labeled as Tetris Clones removed from
Android Market


companies
around the world which are not bound by US laws (such as Google UK Ltd.)
which could run and operate Market thus giving them the same freedoms as the
rest of us outside the jurisdiction of US law. <<

I am not sure that this true for all practical matters. I work for an
American company and certify once a year that I will adhere to US export
restrictions.

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:



That's why I set up the company behind AndAppStore. DMCA notices are
irrelevant to apps on AndAppStore because the company and it's assets are
solely located outside the USA to ensure the USAs ridiculous rules in
relation to Intellectual Property do not interfere with the companies global
operations. The company respects copyrights, but does not take down apps
just because someone paid a lawyer a few hundred dollars to write a letter.

You also forget Google is not just a US entity. It has registered companies
around the world which are not bound by US laws (such as Google UK Ltd.)
which could run and operate Market thus giving them the same freedoms as the
rest of us outside the jurisdiction of US law.


Al.

---

* Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ *

======
Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK.

The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
subsidiaries.


-----Original Message-----
From: android-developers@googlegroups.com

[mailto:android-develop...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ralf
Sent: 13 April 2009 06:38
To: android-developers@googlegroups.com

Subject: [android-developers] Re: Apps labeled as Tetris Clones removed from
Android Market


You forget that Google is a US entity and as such is bound to US laws, such
as, for example, complying to US export limitations. If you don't like it,
you can always create your



Apps labeled as Tetris Clones removed from Android Market

by Marco Nelissen » Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:06:57 GMT


 


You seem to be saying that I could take someone's source code, rename
all the variables, and then claim it as my own. That can't be right.
Also note that with most languages the binary would be exactly the same.

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Apps labeled as Tetris Clones removed from Android Market

by Marco Nelissen » Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:18:59 GMT


 quot;You can never patent abstract ideas. Game ideas cannot be patented"

OK, so we've established you're not a patent lawyer... :)
My favorite patent is the one for swinging sideways on a swing, which
IMO illustrates you can patent pretty much anything.


On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Ikon <ayanafr...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Apps labeled as Tetris Clones removed from Android Market

by george_c » Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:28:32 GMT


  method can be patented.  And not 'anything'
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Marco Nelissen <marc...@android.com> wrote:


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Apps labeled as Tetris Clones removed from Android Market

by Marco Nelissen » Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:42:18 GMT


 


If you file patents on a regular basis, then surely you must have
heard of the 'swing' patent before, which isn't actually a patent for
the apparatus itself, but for a method for swinging sideways on a
standard swing. Anyone who was ever a child should be aware of the
prior art for that, yet it still got issued. Perhaps patent clerks
don't go through the normal human growth cycle but emerge fully grown
from a vat or something... :)

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