G1 UK sales figures ?

by avolo...@gmail.com » Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:13:56 GMT


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G1 UK sales figures ?

by Ed » Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:21:58 GMT


 I'm baffled that sales figures are so hard to find in general. I would
love to see the sales trends of G1 phones overall, in addition to per
country breakdowns.



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G1 UK sales figures ?

by Fred Grott » Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:28:28 GMT


 Probably the best bet is to go to the ad networks that track Android and
enable ads for android developers.

I know of two right now..










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G1 UK sales figures ?

by Mark Murphy » Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:46:38 GMT


 


Why would HTC want to give out this information?

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G1 UK sales figures ?

by Fred Grott » Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:48:50 GMT


 True,

That is why I depend on figures from the ad networks of ads deployed to
android apps








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G1 UK sales figures ?

by David Turner » Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:17:05 GMT


 I don't have any figures, but this may help

 http://news.zdnet.co.uk/communications/0 ,1000000085,39621477,00.htm





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G1 UK sales figures ?

by Al Sutton » Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:22:26 GMT


 They're usually considered commercially sensitive statistics because it 
would give a list of which 'phones are popular with T-Mobile customers 
and tell T-Mobiles competitors which 'phones to focus on when offering 
deals or looking at future offerings.

Al.






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G1 UK sales figures ?

by Fred Grott » Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:30:34 GMT


 Here is one of the ad network reports I follow:
 http://www.intomobile.com/2009/03/03/admob-monthly-mobile-metrics-report-iphone-strong-android-has-3-of-os-share-in-us.html 








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G1 UK sales figures ?

by Ed » Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:29:38 GMT


 Mark,

I'm not sure that I understand this question in the context of global
product markets. You can find the sales figures of TVs, computers,
video games, gaming platforms, and nearly every other popular
electronic device you can name (not to mention non-electronic goods
like cars, airplanes, and lots of other stuff). My confusion is why
the cell phone market is blanketed in secrecy when pretty much every
other market has wide disclosure for sales figures as a basis for
stock value. Of course, I notice that Apple is pretty open about
iPhone sales, so maybe that is a clue.

I'm not interested in arguing, I'm just sincerely baffled by this.

--Ed





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G1 UK sales figures ?

by Al Sutton » Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:55:28 GMT


 Ed,

Mobile 'phones suffer far more from feature differentiation than other 
devices and with many manufacturers using the same OSes revealing exact 
sales stats could put them at a competitive disadvantage.

Take, for example, HTC, if they said that the Windows Mobile handset was 
outselling their Android one by 3 to 1 other mobile manufacturers would 
most likely back off Android handset development and increase work on 
Windows Mobile because that's what's selling.

The other products you mention have either little in the way of major 
value add features (such as TVs and PCs) or are only be produced by one 
manufacturer (e.g. iPhone, games consoles, video games), so there is 
little point in, say Sony hiding it's sales figures for 32" LCD TVs 
because their competitors already have sales stats covering most of the 
range of sizes Sony offers showing which sizes are selling well, or 
little point in Apple hiding iPhone sales because no-one else can sell a 
phone with Mac OS iPhone on it.

The closest thing to it is the video games industry which has ended up 
with a mass of First person shooters, Racing games, and Sports tie-ins 
because that's what sells, and original games like WiiFit and Little big 
planet are few and far between.

Al.








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G1 UK sales figures ?

by Ed » Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:02:54 GMT


 hanks for the clarification, Al. I am still puzzled about the
reporting side of things from non-manufacturer point of view. In other
words, wouldn't you have to tell me about your company's product sales
trends in order to get me to invest in your stock? A smart investor
wouldn't be satisfied with just raw numbers showing an increase over
last year, for example (or even increases over a longer period of
time). Also, given how popular these devices are, I am surprised that
there aren't a great deal of publications with reporters paid to track
down and/or deduce sales figures from the information that is
available.

--Ed


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G1 UK sales figures ?

by Al Sutton » Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:11:40 GMT


 he functional differences go right the way up the supply chain. One 
'phone shop or carrier issues broken down sales by device and you can
bet within a month many of it's competitors will be doing deals on the
popular devices (or the closest equivalent they have).

There is also little value in pre-device break downs for investors
because they are primarily a one-off event. A vast majority of customers
will never buy the same 'phone twice, so it doesn't matter if this month
T-Mobile sold 30,000 G1s' on Feb 2009 because those 30,000 customers now
have a G1 and so aren't going to come back and buy the same 'phone again
(except for a few cases where they break the 'phone).

Investors tend get their information from subscriber numbers, because
these represent opportunities for selling upgrades, services, and
providing a regular monthly income, or from feature groups (i.e. smart
'phones, camera 'phones, etc.), because people tend to go for similar
feature sets for future purchases even if their next 'phone isn't the
same manufacturer (after all a good investment is about the future
potential of the company, not about buying slice of it's already done).

Even developers shouldn't hold too much stock in per sales device
counts. It's next to impossible to get demographics for the ownership of
a specific device, so even if someone said a million G1s had been sold
it doesn't mean there's a million potential customers for your app. Some
owners may not like the 'phone and have it in a drawer, others will be
developers, and others may just not like what your app does.

The best thing to do is market research. Look at your competitors
download counts. Try to get some sales figures. See what users are
saying. That way you can get a feel for where you should place your app
in terms of price and functionality.

Al.


Ed wrote:


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G1 UK sales figures ?

by Ed » Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:25:56 GMT


 uch. Here is a tough article for G1 fans that may answer some of the
questions in this thread.

http://gpsobsessed.com/t-mobiles-g1-activations-get-crunched-by-19-million-iphones-will-things-pick-up-in-2009-warning-blabbering-editorial/

--Ed


On Mar 5, 11:11am, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:
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