Strange Disappearances

by jtaylor » Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:18:59 GMT


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Androidology - Part 1 of 3 - Architecture Overview
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm6Ju0xhUW8 

In one of these 3 Videos I remember Mike Cleron saying that he thinks
what will be Popular for Android is the combo of Location, Maps, RPC,
etc. to create Mashups. Now I don't see where he says that, as if it's
been edited out.

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ADC II

On the Developer Roadmap it says there will be an announcement
regarding ADC II. But I don't remember hearing anything. Neither did
anyone ask why there wasn't any mention of it.

Q4 2008 - Key Announcement on Android Developer Challenge II
 http://code.google.com/android/roadmap.html 

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DEVICE-TO-DEVICE (RPC) MECHANISM

In August this was on the Android Developers Blog. I haven't heard
any
more on it.

"One of our top priorities after the first devices ship is to develop
a device-to-device (and possibly device-to-server) RPC mechanism that
is fast, reliable, and protective of developers and users alike."
 http://android-developers.blogspot.com/search?q=rpc 

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- Juan T.
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by Mark Murphy » Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:23:32 GMT


 


That's interesting.

I had been thinking for a while that they were supposed to announce ADC
II in 2008 Q4. Then, I ran across another reference to their
announcement plans (I forget where) that caused me to think I
mis-interpreted the timing.

Your link, though, is pretty cut-and-dried.

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by Incognito » Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:36:29 GMT


 I've also been expecting for this announcement and been wondering what's 
keeping them. Hopefully they are only late. Would hate to see the ADC II 
canceled.

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ADC II

On the Developer Roadmap it says there will be an announcement
regarding ADC II. But I don't remember hearing anything. Neither did
anyone ask why there wasn't any mention of it.

Q4 2008 - Key Announcement on Android Developer Challenge II
 http://code.google.com/android/roadmap.html 

That's interesting.

I had been thinking for a while that they were supposed to announce ADC
II in 2008 Q4. Then, I ran across another reference to their
announcement plans (I forget where) that caused me to think I
mis-interpreted the timing.

Your link, though, is pretty cut-and-dried.

-- 
Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)
 http://commonsware.com 

Android Training on the Ranch! -- Mar 16-20, 2009
 http://www.bignerdranch.com/schedule.shtml 





      


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by jtaylor » Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:47:40 GMT


 And this commercial just went up and disappeared as well.

HTC T-Mobile Google Android - Video 1
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZHgZr3SXCA 

There's a more laid back one. I guess Android is not up to par yet.

We need the Mashups, Device-to-Device & Identity.

- Juan T.







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by Muthu Ramadoss » Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:39:02 GMT


 ADC2 is rumored to be canceled.

Google, say it aint so!


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by Incognito » Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:53:41 GMT


 Would not be that surprised if it got canceled. If it gets canceled I would 
guess one of the following: 

1. ADC 1 was such a big success that google decided that it no longer makes any 
sense to have a second ADC.

2. Smartphones with data plans are starting to become universal, this is the 
main goal of google therefore it is no longer that important to keep pushing 
Android.

3. Economic times are really bad and given that Android has picked up plenty of 
momentum it would be better to use those 5 million dollars for something else.

4. The first contest was such a pain in the ass that it's not worth it. 

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ADC2 is rumored to be canceled. 

Google, say it aint so!


take care,
Muthu Ramadoss.

 http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz  +91-9840348914
 http://androidrocks.in  - Android Consulting.






I've also been expecting for this announcement and been wondering what's 
keeping them. Hopefully they are only late. Would hate to see the ADC II 
canceled.

Sent from my iPhone







ADC II

On the Developer Roadmap it says there will be an announcement
regarding ADC II. But I don't remember hearing anything. Neither did
anyone ask why there wasn't any mention of it.

Q4 2008 - Key Announcement on Android Developer Challenge II
 http://code.google.com/android/roadmap.html 

That's interesting.

I had been thinking for a while that they were supposed to announce ADC
II in 2008 Q4. Then, I ran across another reference to their
announcement plans (I forget where) that caused me to think I
mis-interpreted the timing.

Your link, though, is pretty cut-and-dried.

--
Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)
 http://commonsware.com 

Android Training on the Ranch! -- Mar 16-20, 2009
 http://www.bignerdranch.com/schedule.shtml 















      
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by Muthu Ramadoss » Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:04:34 GMT


 My hunch is its a combination of 3 and 4. 3 made 4 bigger than it was and
they settled on 0.

So here's the math:

3 + 4 = 0

;)


take care,
Muthu Ramadoss.

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 http://androidrocks.in  - Android Consulting.











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by Al Sutton » Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:21:25 GMT


 imple question;

Developers are developing, apps are getting out there, so what would
they get for the $5m?

At the moment I can't see the money buying anything useful, so I can't
see it happening.

Al.




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by Muthu Ramadoss » Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:32:39 GMT


 gt;> Developers are developing, apps are getting out there, so what would
they get for the $5m?

Agreed. And there's no easy answers when the going gets tough.

Read this: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Google/?p=1232

==snip

Today, Google told us about a bunch of interesting things that are most
likely in direct alignment with the economic situation:

1. *Several service changes/closures*
No more video uploads at Google Video
Google Notebook is no longer being maintained, and no more new accounts
can be created
Dodgeball is gone
Google Catalog Search is gone
Google Mashup Editor is gone
Jaiku will be discontinued, but it's interesting that "The Jaiku code
will be made available to anyone", according to Search Engine
Land<http://searchengineland.com/google-ends-google-video-uploads-shutters-notebook-catalog-search-dodgeball-jaiku-16166>
2. *The dismissal of at least 100 full-time staffing employees*
3. *Relocation of 70 employees in offices found in Texas, Norway, and
Sweden*
Employees in these offices must relocate to another location, or they
will lose their job. This is a very hard thing for most families to do, and
will be a difficult decision for everyone involved.

==end snip




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On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:


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by Peli » Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:12:54 GMT


 > ADC2 is rumored to be canceled.

Good to know! Thanks for the info. :-)

Peli :-)

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by Peli » Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:59:49 GMT


 > Developers are developing, apps are getting out there, so what would

Seriously, they should try to target the consumers' needs for $5m.

The one aspect that differentiates Android from other platforms is its
openness which people who buy the phone may associate with "free
software" and "less bugs".

ADC II could look quite different from ADC I, in that it stresses the
open aspect:
* Give awards to the best patches to the core platform.
* Give awards to the best open source initiatives on Android.
* Give awards to the best community builders.

The consumers would profit from a more stable platform, with more free
and open software to choose from.

Peli
www.openintents.org

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by jtaylor » Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:44:32 GMT


 2 and 3. Smartphones with data plans and Bad Economic Times.

But I don't see how it could be true. ADCII was a bigtime promise from
non other than Google. Many people may have already begun to build
their winning apps. I have!


- Juan T.









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by jtaylor » Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:00:10 GMT


 


I believe there are two parts to the answer. One is that OHA is
getting Innovation. $5m can make Innovation pop up really quickly.

Along with that however, is that you have to have the potential for
Innovaton. ADCI gave us a couple good innovative Apps. Quite frankly
that innovation has run out of steam. Right now there are no more
innovative apps that one can create with Android. There are only so
many things to do with the Barcode. So there won't be Innovative Apps
coming from ADC II at this time.

Why no more Innovative Apps? Because there's no Identity and Device-to-
Device communication. With those two things combined with Location
Android would most definitively take off so that they could run that
Cool commercial. :) The reason is because those things enable
Mashups!

You CANNOT really do Innovation with Location without Virtual
Contacts. And you need Virtual Identity (outside of regular contacts)
for that. And you need Device-to-Device even just for a basic level of
communication. Once we have these coupled with the full knowledge that
soon they will be in the hands of millions and then billions, then the
skies the limit for Innovative Apps. Then you can have an app called
"Genie-ology" which will identify strangers who are related to you
because each one of you has put in his geneology graph into the phone.
Frighteningly Cool! ..All enabled by the concept of Virtual Contacts.

And the App I'm building for ADC II  Alone can make Android Take off.

- Juan T.


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by Muthu Ramadoss » Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:33:18 GMT


 Juan,

What's the app you are building?

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by jtaylor » Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:49:04 GMT


 Also Mashups can be made Easy like going into the realm of Applets. So
more developers can jump on board.
A criticism may be that there aren't enough handsets to make it
innovative.

An example to counter this is that a person would find it useful to be
alerted to coming close to their favorite restaurant. They would even
purchase
such an app quite possibly with a few added things. What would make it
truly innovative is if you add social, such as those who have the
same
interests could be met at the restaurant. However, it doesn't have to
happen! But it's that the POSSIBILITY of it happening is exciting. And
that's
what one could get with tens of millions but not 100's of millions of
handsets sold.

ADC II should be about creating Mashups of different kinds.


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