XL or Tri?

by Muhammad Nur Ihsan » Mon, 22 Nov 2010 11:28:05 GMT

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Mau tanya aja head to head xl unlimited vs tri (semua jenis) kalo dipasang
di hh android, khususnya di kawasan Selatan dan Timur Jakarta (Cibubur,
Kuningan, Tebet, Saharjo).

Sebenernya sih bimbang untuk menggunakan xl di android nya, karena xl :
primary, sementara android buat internetan masih ngandelin tri (krn murah
dan stabilnya)

tapi belakangan ini setelah 3 bulan pake tri koq ga sesuai harapan ya,
apalagi dikawasan2 yg sudah disebut tadi.

Emang gak pernah dapet signal sih kalo lagi di basement :-p
Cuma kepikirannya primary number di hp yg punya lifetime battery lebih bagus
ketimbang android.

Dan signal xl (most of the time saya lihat review) tidak begitu menjanjikan

sent from my desire


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2. manipulating markets popularity! - why should i develop app for android


It is my understanding that the "popularity index" uses several
parameters to such as rating, comments (not directly but indirectly),
number of downloads, active install, total install, installs from
regular users, install from dev phones, age of the app, number of
phone sales in a region, etc,etc -- there is probably 500 elements
that are in the works! And rightfully so Google doesn't want folks to
game the system.

Now what I like to stress here is the following -- the 3 key element
that is presented to users prior to download is number of downloads,
rating, comments. No matter how much we argue at the end of day -- the
users makes his/her decision "somewhat" based on the above 3
parameters. Interestingly all of the above parameters can be
manipulated by doing the following.

a. Download the app - rank and comment
b. Reset your phone - Create new user
c. Repeat A

And if you get say 5 college kid doing the above.. bingo you can
always make sure that visible  3 comments are clean and positive --
you can also use those comments as a megaphone to tell the users --
what more can your app do -- beside the 325 char description , you
keep your rating stable at 4.7/4.6 (so you don't look to greedy) and
your number of downloads are increasing. Not only that while you are
at it you might as well go ahead and make lower rating and ugly
comments to competitors app -- and you make sure you uninstall
competitors app, where as you don't uninstall your app -- you just hit
for the "hard reset" -- because you send the signal -- that the phone
might be off -- rinse and repeat!!! Yes very true this will not
increase your popularity but slowly and surely by doing so you can
only go up cos if all of the ranking elements produce "X" and the
above 3 elements say produce "Y" -- no matter how insignificant these
3 parameter is -- you are on the positive -- never the less you have a
propaganda megaphone to the users who download your apps. In every
damn category all the top 20 - 30 apps stays the same, I have not seen
them moving out of that space !!

I am complete disgusted by the above, I worked hard to develop my app,
I used the SDK so I can take advantage of all the phone features and I
am honest and what it gets me -- nada! So why should I develop app --
what incentive does it provide me if I don't have the money power to
buy my friends 5-10 G1 to game the system!!

I have couple of ideas to the above problem - and I am sure there are
many here who has even better idea then i list below --

1. Rating from the "new" users i.e. created on the fly users -- should
be separated from the users who are verified i.e. been using google
for a while and have a history, so I propose 2 ratings rather then one
- why - it should be transparent to the end consumer (No propaganda
megaphone) -- how you use to evaluate popularity -- not my business
and its googles secret.

2. Comments should have added "star" or colors to identify also the
user has no history with google i.e. Amazon's "REAL NAME". Again
transparent to end consumer

Yes, I do want to have "real users comments" and their "ratings" and
show the world "total downloads" -- it just helps me improve my app.
But we need a fair playing field that's my request. I am sure many of
you know the above -- at least its a open secret! Now everyone can
play the game!!

I look forward to constructive replies/solutions and hear your views.


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